When did committing felonies become a business model?

California Penal Code 632:

Come the law breakers

Note-takers that use meeting applications have a business model that allows anyone participating in an online meeting to have the contents of the meetings recorded, transcribed, interpreted, and transmitted. This happens in two ways:

For reference, on my group calls this month we have an average of about 40 people on the call, including a few who dial in over the phone. And we get an average of about 8 note takers that try to join the call, which I try to identify and deny access to. But every once in a while, one gets through - because it has a long name that I cannot see all of or just doesn't identify itself as a note-taker.

No, it's not OK

They are not just recording, of course. They are using my confidential advice to the attendees, their confidential information provided on the call, and my answers to complex questions to train their AI, or usually as it turns out mistrain it.

I have spent years of my life learning lessons the hard way and I share those lessons with you through these articles, videos, and online real-time discussions. That is part of my contribution to society as a whole and the individuals who choose to join me on the calls or read my articles.

The calls are free to those who are invited, and while I do charge folks for more specific advice requiring me to spend individual time and effort and pay for services and technologies to support the effort, it's not economic compensation I am after for my expertise on these calls. It's a two way street. We have discussions, people ask questions and I try to help them in my answers. Those answers lead to other questions and engage other participants in sharing their thoughts and understandings. It's a private conversation between willing participants, under the terms that we all agree to. And as we get to know each other, we form relationships that are, I hope, mutually beneficial.

So no... It's not OK to take our discussions and relationship building efforts without consent, in violation of the law.

Not the first time

I note that this is not the first time I have seen industries founded on violating the law. Obviously, pornography, which has led the charge for many technical innovations over time. But that's not really what I am talking about here. I am talking about supposedly good people trying to do good things, who through negligence, knowingly and intentionally violate laws, or fail to even check that what they are doing is legal.

Which brings me to a short (too late?) story.

But fear not. Those social media sites are largely legally doing studies using your data and you as a target of their psychological efforts. It turns out you can do this for money, but not for legitimate research.

It's their business model

For those of you who perhaps fund these companies, if you are aware of their criminal behavior and still invest, you are potentially part of a criminal conspiracy to commit these crimes. And when I say aware of their criminal behavior, you don't have to know it's a crime. All you need to know is that they are recording online communications and fail to diligently ask how they get permission. I am not a lawyer, and you should talk to yours about this, but to be clear, my lay understanding is that if two or more people agree and one of them subsequently performs an overt act in furtherance of the crime, they are all committing the crime. And what could be clearer as a conspirator than knowingly funding the criminal acts?

Don't believe me... See what the Federal Law Enforcement Training Agency says about it at https://www.fletc.gov/audio/federal-conspiracy-law-mp3.

And just in case you figure that you didn't know it was a crime, ignorance of the law is no excuse... but check with your lawyer... a criminal lawyer who specialized in this, not your lawyer who just does does contracts.

But to be clear, for the stuff I described earlier, you can no longer claim ignorance!

Get out while you can!

But you can maybe save yourself if the criminal act has not yet been taken...

If you are investing in one of these companies, get out now! Withdraw your funds, report it to law enforcement (check with your lawyer first), or whatever you have to do to get out.

If you are working for a firm that does this, same thing... quit under protest, talk to your lawyer first.

If you are running one of these companies... Stop It!

Conclusions

In their exuberance to make money by leveraging AI, folks are apparently breaking the law. And if you are investing in them, you are also apparently breaking the law. I'd rather not see you in jail... But it's not just AI. And it's not just investors. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - so don't be ignorant ... and stay out of jail.

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In summary

Stop committing crimes. And stop letting them commit these crimes against you by reporting them to your local, state, or Federal law enforcement, depending on what they are doing.

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